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Nn C
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Cheh. One off earning due to sold 168,000,000 share at 23sen and count as profit. Exclude this selling, is great LOST at all
cheng
No, it is not selling of treasury shares :) doesn’t work that way.
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F@@L愚人
The treasury share is YTD, and only get RM3.94 million.. not enough to push paper profit ..

There are 1 exceptional item RM 208 million , this is the key to push the paper profit ..
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cheng
Fool is right and it is the deconsolidation of Indon ops which has been causing lots of pain to it’s profitability in the past.
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Jaffery Yeo
Cheng may I ask about that exceptional item is what?
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F@@L愚人
(#) : The retailing operations in Indonesia were carried out by PT Tozy Sentosa (In Bankruptcy) ("PT Tozy"). The Group had ceased to have control over PT Tozy as disclosed in Note 19(a) and Note 23.
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Jaffery Yeo
fool--that means parkson disposal that pt tozy, get the one off gain... So it making the margin look so high right?
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F@@L愚人
Can said like that… because they are selling the lost making business..

Invest Parkson can focus on operation profit 1st..
Coz they lost many years.. if look to paper profit, that tome share price up already..

Cheer
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Henry Kck
fake profit to fool ppl in tomorrow
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Jaffery Yeo
Okkk cause I dint saw any news about selling that business... So need to find out.. For invest
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F@@L愚人
I’m also learning. I seek advise regarding the item from my auditor friend.. he teach me and explain to me…
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Jaffery Yeo
It was 9s haha... Just sometimes don't know the item they disposal are what... It making me headaches
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cheng
Hi Jaffery, Fool is right on the PT Tozy; basically manages the Parkson Indonesia operations. As part of the accounting requirements, exceptional items from deconsolidation of subsidiary (can be gains/loss) has to be reported separately from its usual operating income. As for the margins, you maybe confused with the % change in the report. You can still calculate the actual operating margins separately. As for news, it was announced months back on the status of PT Tozy and it’s deconsolidation.
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cheng
There are a few more corporate developments going on within Parkson including risk of PN17; hence the reasons why it’s selling its treasury shares and initiating pp shares for its working capital - to preserve cash. This is on top of other action plans put in place. You will have to pull back all its previous announcements and it’s spelled out accordingly; what triggered the risk, action plans and timeline.
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Jaffery Yeo
ok thx cheng for sharing the information to us
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F@@L愚人
Ya.. appreciate Cheng comment..

Who plan to invest, 注意下外部auditor 的COMMENT:

Auditors' report on preceding annual financial statements
The Auditors has issued an unqualified audit opinion and the Auditors' report on the financial statements for the financial year ended 30 June 2020 included a paragraph on material uncertainty related to going concern of the Group. The Auditors highlighted that the Group reported a net loss for the financial year ended 30 June 2020, and as at that date, the Group's current liabilities exceeded its current assets; and that the Group's financial performance and operations were impacted by strict quarantine measures and movement control restrictions, caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, that have resulted in temporary closures of certain retailing stores in its key markets during the financial year ended 30 June 2020.
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cheng
You are welcome, Jaffery, Fool :)
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Megat Muazam
paper profit, no money made
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cheng
Yes and No, Megat :) if financial report or the business is as simple as just the income statement, revenue comes in cash, upfront, products delivered and recognised right away, expenses paid and incurred right away, then net income = cash that the business generate. In this case, you will be right that on paper positive but did not see the cash:) however, in reality - most businesses is not as simple as it is and hence, there’s the balance sheet and cash flow statement :) It is still a profit generated but did not ADD to cash balances. the expectation from Parkson has to be right - it was a money losing business for years and starting to show good sign with the exit of Indo ops. There’s still the Vietnam ops and other actions that the mgmt is working on.
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MOLOTUP POPCORN
so overall, fake qr,is it mr cheng?
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cheng
Hi EpicNostalgia, why fake qr? Parkson is a public listed company and its report is subjected to audits. The risk associated with investing in Parkson remains the same as the mgmt continued to work hard to address the requirements that led to the risk of PN17. We will know the overall situation/PN17 risk by the end of current fiscal year which has been changed to year end; 18 months durations.
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MOLOTUP POPCORN
ic, thanks for your insights, very valuable
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F@@L愚人
thanks Cheng.. you really a contributor.. appreciate!
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cheng
You are welcome, EpicNostalgia. All the details are available and in announcement sections - qr report, corporate actions, and other disclosures. If you are holding Parkson shares and risk of PN17 is of your concern, then, it makes sense to at least keep track of its progress between current liabilities and current assets. This was the criteria that triggered the MUGC from auditors based on FY2020 annual report and actions to be taken subsequently; including resale of treasury shares and pp :)
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cheng
You are welcome, Fool. Just sharing my opinions and could be wrong :) no harm exchanging opinions to prevent bias in decision making. Cheers
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Gold Kinh
Hi Mr cheng I noted of your worries on pn17. There is no pn17 and buy selling treasury shares at cheap prices won't contribute much. As WC mentioned all he needs to do is revalue its assets actually. As their assets has not been revalued. So hope this clarifies on your pn17 issue.
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cheng
hi gold kinh, I am not worried about the risk of PN17 as I am just holding some free tickets. Just sharing some opinions to correct the wrong perception of treasury shares sales as the one off gains :) If William Cheng's plan is just to revalue its assets to turnaround Parkson, then, I will not hold my free tickets anymore :) Just sharing - asset revaluation is done on non-current assets/fixed assets. If there is any revaluation gains/surplus, the impact is on the equity; no impact to current assets. Current liabilities is still something that William Cheng has to address :) Just my opinions, could be wrong. Hope it helps.
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Gold Kinh
Yes cheng it's true. Treasury sales issue this guy is in dreamland and does not know what his talking about. The turnaround of parkson in China is the early signs of great things to come. When parkson was in its hay days the stock was running base on earnings and at that time they didn't have all the assets they have today as most of the malls were rented. Today they have malls they own sitting in Beijing and shanghai which is worth a bomb. I will hold my horses at current valuation.
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Tan Kuen
ROE-2.15 only how to go in pn17? go see jerasia ROE-70 that's how pn17 came to
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Gold Kinh
As William Cheng mentioned he is not worried of any pn17. China turnaround and bleeding Indonesia operations no more, China will contribute to Malaysia earnings. Looks like will just hold as at current valuation there is actually nothing to complain.
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