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lz phoi
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who looking for SIR report next week?
no need panic. deadline is 4Q2021, not October.

therefore go buy popcorn then come back. still plenty of time
Kon Foo Siow
annual reports?
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快乐衰神
karim already mention will come out by October
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lz phoi
annual reports must be end October according to bursa listing requirement, else will suspend until dunno when.

SIR report not necessarily end October. i believe boss Karim will show annual report first, SIR report will much later.
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Bon Bon Sin
没sir 可以close audit ? 没close audit 还出什么annual report
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Chong Chong
serba need EY sign SIR in order to close 2020 audit. so if 2020 audit report dead line is OCT then SIR must sign in OCT.
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Andrew Chai Ming Jun
Lz phoi actually you know what happened?? Why can you say come out annual report first?
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ss tan
0.37和大家做股东。。。。。。。
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Andrew Chai Ming Jun
星期一serba 不能在跌了
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Andrew Chai Ming Jun
我比较期待星期一谁会来撑股价,是庄,还是epf,还是karim
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lz phoi
Andrew. 我想的理解就是,
bursa 条例,audit年报一定要10月31日出,不然会停牌直到你的audit年报出,
有些公司可以停牌到除牌都没有出年报。

SIR 不一样,SIR 的期限没有规定10月31日。
楼上的朋友说serba need EY sign SIR to close audit。我认为年报不是EY 的责任,年报是Nexia SSY 的责任。
如果Nexia SSY 认为没问题可以过关,那么一样是audited annual report 。
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Chong Chong
hahaha you are so smart.
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lz phoi
我觉得现在的风险不是SIR ,是annual report 。
1。因为如果10月31日没有SIR 但是有annual report,不会停牌。
2。31/10 如果 SIR 出了,但是没有annual report,依然是停牌。

3。但是如果没有annual report,confirm 停牌,甚至除牌。如果手上有票的话,根本无法套现。

如果怕的话不如annual report 先出来,没有停牌的风险,再持股等SIR 出来,我觉得1.00不是问题。
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Kon Foo Siow
可是有说几时annual report几时会出吗?
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Chong Chong
guess bawang no more ticket... run way is clear.
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lz phoi
Kon. very good question haha.
annual report 10月31日会不会出,只有karim 知道。
如果 Nexia 想要等 EY 的SIR 出来才肯签,
那么情况就可能是 - 先停牌,再出SIR,再出audit annual report,再复牌。TP 1.00

如果找不到auditor签的话,除牌。。。

如果你有信心annual report 月尾出的到,go ahead XD 。。。当然我希望他出的到啦
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Chee shung Khoo
我猜不会除牌。油价上涨势头破100美元一桶方向
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Up Trend
anytime it will be suspended and limit up. there is only one way.. up TP 1.00 :)
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ss tan
油价起股票没有起。。。小心。。。
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lz phoi
well, i think SIR will not out in October.
Karim and EY never promise that, SIR is only EXPECTED around 4Q2021.

even the news of bi-weekly progress not seen a single piece.
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Rafizam Ramli
DK already told SIR by Oct.. read news la.. haha..
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Lumbrusco Haw
The BoD bukan said trivial issue meh? Bukan small matter meh ? Small matter can drag so long ?only mangkuk will believe it's just small issue , very obvious something has been brewing...all this si gambler just come and buy big or small
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lz phoi
Rafizam.

… More recently, Serba Dinamik has reiterated that it expects the SIR report by its special independent reviewer Ernst & Young Consulting Sdn Bhd (EY) to be ready "within 4Q 2021". …

https://focusmalaysia.my/ta-securities-leaves-serba-out-of-re-rating-exercise-sell-call-remains/

if you have your source, welcomed to share here.
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Bon Bon Sin
没sir nexia auditor 是不会给opinion的 没close audit 出屁股annual report
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lz phoi
Bon.
如果真如你所说 nexia 那样,那我觉得月尾应该没有SIR,然后多几天 就会停牌了。。。

如果nexia 对年报的意见是毫无保留的话,也就是不认同kpmg 的疑虑的话,
audited annual report 还是有机会出的。最最重要是nexia 肯不肯签。。。

这里还有一个小概率的情况,说说而已别太认真,就是某审计师又闹辞职的话,(自己想像)。。。
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Kingsley Woon
如果Nexia 签了,EY SIR不同意见那怎么办
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lz phoi
很简单。由bursa 和 sc 来定夺。sc 肯定会听取EY 的独立报告,如果SC/EY 认为kpmg 的疑虑不存在,那么此事应该会不了了之。TP1.00

如果SC/EY 认为SD 果真有问题,那么会牵涉到sd 和nexia。总之手尾很长。拖得越久,股价应该。。。
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yutaka tong
gamble counter...big up or big down
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dolah dolah
sembahyang la brother and sister, bismilah imahim
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Xing Tian
where the news? can share?
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Chan WaiLoon
@Gem, good good
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lz phoi
想要持票到月尾的朋友,我的意见:
1。SIR 和 annual report AR 哪个重要? 这个月,肯定、肯定、肯定是 AR 重要。因为月尾没有 AR 就是停牌,没有的延期。停多久,1天 1星期 1个月 6个月?

2。那么月尾有没有AR ? 我觉得50:50。一来,Nexia 才进来不久,确定赶得及6个季度的年报吗?二来,会不会有其他突发事件?
3。好的方面,AR 应该不需要等SIR。因为Nexia 也是审计师,应该要有自己的判断,不应该被kpmg 的意见拉着鼻子走。而且SIR 是直接向bursa SC 汇报,和 AR 并没有相互关系。

4。可以好像epf 那样抓着票吗?先看看epf 的SD 的票,在epf 的资产还不到 0.02%,即使停牌除牌也无所谓啦。但是我们能吗?如果钱太多的话我没话说。

5。那还留在这里干嘛?我觉得,等AR 出来,确定不会停牌,买 TP1.00。因为如果 Nexia 肯签AR ,那么估计EY 的 SIR 应该也不会差到哪里去了。

重复,现在是停不停牌的问题。想当年的中概股停牌有多痛苦,自己知道。。。
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Kon Foo Siow
如果真的没交报告要停牌多久?
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Lau James
停到report出来为止哦
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Chee shung Khoo
i have china evergrande share. very dangerous. if u cannot bear the risk, dont buy serba. very dangerous.
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Chee shung Khoo
go and buy public bank, very good and stable. dont buy serba. in certain case, please short serba
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Klse2u Thomas
yes correct, wait after SIR and annual report out then only buy, this counter very dangerous
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Chee shung Khoo
给你看了才操作,那不是股票了,那是"包淫"了
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lz phoi
sorry all bosses. due to character i will only show the key info for dear goreng kakis.

Source : Nanyang
Part 1 of 2 - Annual report materials can be released on time

Abdul Karim hopes that the highly anticipated FY 2021 audit annual report of SD and the independent review report will be released on time.

After KPMG's resignation as an external auditor of SD, the group appointed Nexia SSY as the new external auditor in August this year; (cont)
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lz phoi
Part 2 of 2

according to Bursa Securities, the annual audit report must be released before the 31st of this month.

Abdul Karim pointed out that although the group still has room to apply to Bursa Malaysia for the delay in submitting its annual report; the current plan of SD is to submit its annual report on time.

The independent reviewer Ernst & Young (EY), in response to the audit issues raised by KPMG earlier, is also expected to publish its independent review report by end of this year. #
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lz phoi
above source is from

https://www.klsescreener.com/v2/news/view/896787 , last 4 paragraph.

goreng kakis no thank.

Simply say, the plan A is to submit AR on time (but no guarantee).
the plan B is to apply to Bursa for delay submit AR.

Hold or Sell? pandai2 lah haha~~
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Kingsley Woon
Just a trivia issue... Why EY takes so long to release SIR?
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Xing Tian
Discussion and compromise need time maybe.
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dolah dolah
good luck guys.... Karim gave up but we still hold tight, all in, tighten your seatbelt
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lz phoi
better loitering around first.
if AR out before 31/10, only buy and wait TP1.00. Else, whatever share price, keep cash in hand from being suspend or delisted.
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lz phoi
we must know, if, if, if, SD suspend/delist, SD business as usual. Director is no harm at all. But you money is GG liao...

wanna bet, why not just kpower or scib, return might be similar, but no risk of suspend. correct?
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dennis lee
wrong ! because their relationship is linked together some how or rather.
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dolah dolah
Holland together!!!!!
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lz phoi
Repeat. Are you really no fear of suspend?

better loitering around first.
if AR out before 31/10, only buy and wait TP1.00. Else, whatever share price, keep cash in hand from being suspend or delisted.
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Andrew Chai Ming Jun
lz phoi 果然有人吃完票了
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Andrew Chai Ming Jun
看来大多数散户都放玩了
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Jason Chong
And now really suspended. Where all sifu
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lz phoi
Andrew. 还是说,更大批的散户被套入局了?XD
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lz phoi
我又乱猜一下。 会停牌到几时?
此番如果是bursa 出手停牌,那么我估,应该是直到AR 出来了,应该是至少两个星期,或者更长。

不过。可能有转机,就是karim 向bursa 解释他清空涡轮的意图,前提是bursa 满意的话。不过,你觉得有可能吗?
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Lumbrusco Haw
不要猜,不要瞎估,股票不是拿来猜的,也不是拿来博的,是看情况怎样才决定可不可以投资,是根据fact来做决定的,不是看到老板进进出出,然后去猜要进还是要出好。。。。
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Andrew Chai Ming Jun
早上不是都卖完了吗那些散户
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Chan WaiLoon
Be positive guys and all this matters is beyond our control. Just stay tune and patient
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yutaka tong
already experienced previous suspension and big loss.....damn scary and never touch Karim counters again..serba kpow scib
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lz phoi
part 1

22 Oct 2021

Bursa Malaysia Securities Berhad (“Bursa Securities”) wishes to draw investors’ attention to Serba Dinamik Holdings Berhad (“SERBADK”)’s announcement on 6 September 2021, in relation to status update on the Special Independent Review (“SIR”).  

Bursa Securities notes that the findings from the Factual Findings Update as at 30 September 2021 (“Factual Findings Update”) on the SIR have been communicated to 3 out of 4 independent non-executive directors, on 21 October 2021. 
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lz phoi
part 2 of 2 by Bursa

The suspension will remain until an announcement in compliance with this directive and paragraph 9.35A of the MMLR is made by SERBADK on the findings from the Factual Findings Update.  

The directive is issued to ensure material information is disclosed in a timely manner and to provide clarity to the market.
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lz phoi
下个拜三有多重要?
1。如果 SIR 进展正面的话,那么拜三复牌。那么多几天AR 估计也会顺利出台。

2。如果SIR 进展是负面的话,那么拜三复牌。但是AR 就几乎gg了,然后多几天就是再停牌了。。。

现在有票也好,没票也好,想想看拜三要怎么操作吧。
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yutaka tong
the only counter that need to be suspended for audit result
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lz phoi
yutaka. haha the ONLY counter lmao…
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Chee shung Khoo
oil price will go above 100usd/barrel before transition to next policy. serba will survive
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Chee shung Khoo
doesnt matter the suspension. evergrande after suspension recovers
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lz phoi
bursa 昨天的公告有几严厉?

我觉得karim 昨天买的1m ,可能已经摊上大事了 - 内m交易。

bursa 22/10 明确写到,sd 一方在21/10 已经知道SIR 的最新update。
而这么重要的讯息,公众的竟然不是被sd 告知,(如果bursa没有讲,就是没有人知道)。
就是说,bursa 昨天是在暗示sd,你们有一些讯息没有透露给大众。

如果bursa 把这个定性为(股价敏感资料),那么内m交易就实了。
唉,还想着等反弹TP1.00,看来唉。。。。
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Andrew Chai Ming Jun
lzphoi 这就是股市 老板和epf买票还有通知bursa那散户就跟着epf买不就行了
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lz phoi
那他就紧张了。他昨天不买还好,可是他买了1m股。
现在bursa 已经出招了,
但是有一方还没有出声,那就是sc。
过几天应该会出招了。唉。。。
内m交易成立,可能坐10年或罚100w以上呀~~
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lz phoi
此番变了罗生门。
25/10
(该公司续指,今年7月2日已和独立审查公司安永(Ernst & Young)签订条款,说明“在更新消息前后,不得将任何资料发给任何一方,包括监管机构。”)

如果sd 坚持这条,那么他一早无法满足 bursa 于6月29日 的公告 Bursa Directive V1.4 (d) 项目。

所以,继续关。
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Teck Hwa Tey
可以sue E&Y, 不得将任何资料给监管机构。
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Kingsley Woon
By order of bursa to conduct SIR.. I wonder how SD can override regulator's order...
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Chong Chong
no override laaa just technically not ready.
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MATHAVAN KUNALAN
But be careful if the directors quietly sells their shares within this month then pls be sure . Our investments are doomed .
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lz phoi
Kingsley.
that's the point. Recall bursa announcement of directive on 29 June 2021. SD need to comply all the requirements.

but yesterday SD announcement seems to override/ignore Bursa directive already...
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lz phoi
Another thing very very very weird.

if Bursa knew, officially, that FFU 30/9 of SIR already reached INED of serba, but serba denied it, that means at least one party is not telling the truth.

if bursa have no such info, why waste time suspend serba while bursa has other 1000++ counters to look after?
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Chee shung Khoo
wait for next days/months/years/decades, the answer will b revealed
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Chee shung Khoo
现在给你猜中有用吗?都停牌了,愿投资就得有准备有亏损的心态。包赢的东西庄家给我们投资?
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lz phoi
现在猜一猜,如果可以复牌,可能会有一个方向要买入还是要卖出嘛~~
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Chee shung Khoo
lets say limit up, will u buy? limit down is less likely...limit down path is delist already....do u think 庄家0,05cent给大众买?
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Chee shung Khoo
uptrend or delist is my guess. and do u think boss allows delist?
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lz phoi
limit up i will not buy. because already 0.645.
LD i think not very likely, because 0.055 so good year end sale meh? TRANMIL before delist also have 0.20...
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Chee shung Khoo
the other likely scenario based on china evergrande group is 邓紫棋的歌曲"差不多"的姑娘
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Chee shung Khoo
no lu and no ld after resume trading
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Chee shung Khoo
buyers will hope for uptrend...no buy ppl will 唱衰sb
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lz phoi
i think both up and down is possible when resume.
it really depends on how major player intrepret the news. if all think good news, LU...

if only you think that is good news, but other all think is bad news (despite actually it is good), then LD...
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Chee shung Khoo
no ld, no lu....price trades like evergrande group....updown updown
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Chee shung Khoo
ld for all to buy 0,05?庄家开这种盘给all 买进?
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Chee shung Khoo
if bad, then towards delist gradually...wont ld for people to buy only to delist
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Chee shung Khoo
evergrande都没涨/跌停
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Chee shung Khoo
sb凭啥limit up/down
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lz phoi
maybe the ey sir is positive leh...
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