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Harta从20块钱跌到现在,到底是股价的问题,还是我们自己本身的问题?

如果不关注企业发展去向,投资能走多远?

盈利成长与否,短期股价乃是落后指标

What a business will earn and the competing return on other investments determine its selling price.

Let's look at an example :
If Hartalega earned $100,000 a year before taxes, year after year, what would investor be willing to pay for it? You'd have to do some comparison shopping. Let's say that AAA-rated corporate bonds are paying 10%. This would mean that investor have to buy $1 million worth of bonds to produce $100,000 a year ( $1 million x 10% = $100,000 ).

If investor had to pay $1.5 million for the business and it was earning $100,000, the rate of return would drop to 6.7% ($100,000/$1.5 million = 6.7%). But if investor bought $1.5 million worth of bonds that paid 10%, you would be earning $150,000 a year ( $1.5 million x 10% = $150,000).
Why would you pay $1.5 million for Hartalega when you could get a far better rate of return by buying bonds?

The business would only become attractive at or below a selling price of $1 million. If investor paid more than $1 million, you'd be better off buying the bonds. In this situation, that bonds were earning 10% would create downward pressure on the selling price of the business.

Now let's drop the interest rate that bonds pay to 5%. If investor bought $1.5 million worth of 5% bonds, you would only earn $75,000 a year ( $1.5 million x 5% = $75,000).
That isn't as good as the $100,000 a year you would be earning if you paid $1.5 million for the business.

我觉得,市场有很多赚钱的隐藏师傅,为何他们不愿分享如何 "有效率的估值" ...也许他们有分享过,但得到的回应 大概是酱 :

" 你讲酱多有用mehh?? 今天股价还不是跌? 那么厉害, 老早就自己赚够够咯,还要跟人讲??"。
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Tiong Seng Puah
Tomorrow rm2
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Meaw Meaw Cat
below 1.80 again...meaw meaw
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OwwO
股价是落后指标,只看股价,投资能走多远?
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奇异果
指标是落后股价。。。。。
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士别杜公
开始觉得harta可能会跌去1以下变仙股,这种跌法很快就到。
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奇异果
大势不好,手套股又是过时了的,不跌不可能
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weng yew Lee
epf 都丢了多少你看不见了,它价钱有人收。LOL 月底看有 rm2.00 吗?
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奇异果
月底 RM2? 不可能啦
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OwwO
@yew lee大哥,

我在1.7已开始买入一点点,打算分批收藏5年以上。价格浮动,杯水车薪的小散户控制不来,除了资金分配,跟进企业的状况与发展也很重要。

综合几个投资机构买卖足以让股价大幅度上升或下跌。在短期之内,的确有酱的机会可以去到2块钱。我要的并不是短期内赚钱..... 个人选择没有买卖建议。
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接票侠
我看到harta的monthly chart形状好像在比中指。哈哈
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Lim Chun Eik
Walao eh..... 那么贵
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