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Gugu,green. Yes. I do enjoy some good discussion with trader or investor through this forum. There are quite some good trader and investor here that have very good view and experience especially in the worldwide economic prospect. Sadly most of the investor in Malaysia too focus on the indicators such as PE, etc. Yes that is a good fundamental indicator , however in my opinion worldwide sentiment is the main reason the stock rise or drop. Anyway , I enjoy discussing with both of you green and gugu.